Rory and Jen discuss Chapter Two of "In the Grip of Grace" and find some interesting connections to Moana and Pinocchio. They discuss the difference between God's righteous anger and human anger. 

Welcome to the first episode of Rory and Jen Chat it up! In this episode Rory and Jen discuss Easter/Resurrection Sunday, the adventure of the mountainous project Rory ask Jen to create, the merits of Easter Candy, and the first chapter of Max Lucado's book, "In the grip of Grace." Rory and Jen talk about how they personally relate to each of the brothers that appear in Max Lucado's parable of the River, and how this all relates to the upcoming sermon series through the book of Romans.